wahaha 发表于 2011-7-14 08:11:19

外交部7月12日例会谈及天主教

07/12/2011
Beijing defends illegal ordinations
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A government spokesman said “Patriotic Catholics do not recognise the Pope’s administrative authority. This shows religious freedom does exist in China”vatican insider staff
rome The Chinese patriotic Catholic Association does not recognise the Pope’s administrative authority. This, according to Spanish news agency Efe, was the declaration made by Hong Lei, a spokesman for Beijing’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, during a press conference which took place today.

Hong Lei defended ordinations of bishops that have taken place recently without consensus from the Vatican, explaining that the Chinese patriotic Catholic Association, acts in accordance with decades of tradition and with the principle of independence and home rule”.

Hong Lei added that when the Association elects and ordains bishops, it exercises religious freedom. “This – he observed – demonstrates that religious freedom does exist in China. In this way we ensure the growth of Catholicism in China and any criticism or accusation has no basis”. The Spanish agency reported that when asked about the arrest and disappearance of four bishops, the official replied tersely: “I haven’t had any news”.

Meanwhile, a Hong Kong newspaper attributes the confirmation of the intentions to ordain Huang Bingzhang as the new bishop of Canton on July 14, to the patriotic Association. 7 missing bishops including the 4 already mentioned are supposed to be attending the ceremony. Liu Bainian, honorary President of the Association declared: “We do not know how the Vatican will react to the appointment of Huang and of the other 40 bishops that are yet to be ordained in order to spread the Gospel throughout China. Let us hope it will agree to these.” “These bishops are spiritually loyal to the Pope but when it comes to politics they are on China’s side” Liu Bainian commented.

In the meantime, today, the Vatican Radio wrote: “Victims to strong pressure to be present at an illegal Episcopal ordination. There are some bishops, particularly from the region of Guangdong, who are in communion with the Roman Catholic Church whom - according to Chinese news – the authorities wish to pressure into attending an Episcopal ordination due to take place on 14 July, after bishops refused to participate. The authorities’ decision has brought about a wave of solidarity from priests and local Catholics, who have sided with their bishops in resistance. This latest occurrence takes us back to the recent illegitimate Episcopal ordination of Paul Lei Shiyin, of the diocese of Leshan, which was celebrated last 29 June. In a Declaration published on 4 July, the Holy See defined the ordination as illegitimate and a source of division for the Church and spoke of how the news had aroused a great sense of bitterness in Benedict XVI, who – the note concluded – had wanted to reach out to “China’s beloved faithful, with a message of encouragement and hope, inviting them to pray and to stay united”.

wahaha 发表于 2011-7-14 12:41:35

admin既然有能力审理通过,就该翻译出来。为网友提供方面,自然会增加点击量啊。admin的工作量和成绩自然就提高了?

花雨清风 发表于 2011-7-14 17:23:35

翻译:

北京保卫非法祝圣
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政府发言人说:“爱国天主教会不承认教皇的行政权力。这表明宗教自由在中国“梵蒂冈内幕人员确实存在
罗马的中国天主教爱国会不承认教皇的行政权力。这一点,据西班牙通讯社埃菲社,是由北京的外交部发言人,洪磊,今天发生在新闻发布会上作出的声明。
   
洪磊最近有没有从梵蒂冈的共识地方主教教区的辩护,解释说,中国天主教爱国会,在几十年的传统,并按照独立和自治“的原则行为。

洪磊说,协会选出并ordains主教时,行使宗教自由。 “这 - 他观察 - 表明,宗教信仰自由在中国确实存在。这样,我们确保天主教在中国的增长,任何批评或指责没有依据“。西班牙通讯社报道时,要求逮捕和失踪四位主教,官方的回答简洁:“我还没有任何消息”。
   
与此同时,香港一家报纸属性的意图确认为广东的新主教祝圣于7月14日,黄秉章,爱国会。包括已经提到的4 7人失踪主教应该是出席仪式。刘柏年,该协会的名誉主席宣布:“我们不知道梵蒂冈将如何作出反应,任​​命黄和其他40主教,尚未被祝圣,以福音传遍中国。我们希望,它会同意这些。“这些主教是精神上忠于教皇但是,当谈到他们在中国一边的政治”刘柏评论。
   
与此同时,今天,梵蒂冈电台说:“目前在非法祝圣的强大压力的受害者。从广东地区,特别是有一些主教,罗马天主教教会的人与共融 - 中国新闻 - 当局希望压力成出席7月14日举行祝圣主教拒绝后参加。当局的决定带来了一个团结与抵抗他们的主教片面的祭司和当地的天主教徒,波。这个最新出现把我们带回到最近的非法祝圣保雷世银,乐山教区,这是去年6月29日庆祝。在7月4日发表了一份宣言,罗马教廷定义为非法的和一个教会的来源划分的协调和发言的消息,引起了如何在本笃十六世,谁的苦涩感 - 注意结论 - 本来想“中国心爱的忠实,鼓励和希望的消息,邀请他们祈祷,并保持团结”。

义峰 发表于 2011-7-14 17:50:07

这是什么翻译?软件译的吧,看不懂

花雨清风 发表于 2011-7-14 17:53:21

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alxdr123 发表于 2011-7-19 18:15:57

看懂了:当局任命教会主教就是宗教信仰自由。教会【教宗】选择任命主教就是干涉内政。
目前,按中国普通话说,他们{非法祝圣}是在【客观上】做了恶表,藐视,分裂教会,所以受到【自科绝罚】。{其【主观】动机,是良心问题,目前的【特色】更是其他人无法判断。}并不需要教会当局每次公布了。现在公布是为了警醒所有教友神职。如若【悔改】就必须【公开】不然谈不上【悔改】。所以为他们祈祷是必须的。因为绝大多数还是兄弟,真正从内心反对教会,羞辱教宗的,玩弄教友的还是极其个别的。
当局其实很清楚,这不是什么政治问题,也不是要求教友神父忠于谁,就是要你们说假话,能做违心的事,能够接受指鹿为马,就行。在我们这块奇妙的土地,不但政治,就是一般大小事项,说说假话太一般般,它觉得,你们应该比他应该更为【高调】,一些教友,神职就是不开窍,没有一点政治常识。傻帽一批。又是【政治】问题,世俗权势,任命选择教会主教,破坏教会纯洁【目前对私企经理好像政府都没有任命】还要教友,教会承认,太过分了。第三方:【世界各国,各宗教民族】,怎么看你,陷当局于不光彩地步。学会说【假话】就是好,官方猪脚有得做,说真话真是傻,牢狱之灾免不了。
有司对中国教会问题,还经过包装,都不给面子,死有余辜;谈一下包装--语言:
问题是【语言】的高妙,比如【爱国】【独立自主】【自选自圣】【不受任何外国势力干涉】没有错,这也正是教会,教友坚持的。但是,现在的【实质】是什么!!?它的实质是【爱某集团于 天主之上】,你教会将【被独立自主,将被自选自圣】一切被领导,控制,教会成为木偶戏团。这个【自】是【他自己】绝不是教会自己。教会被控制还要表现出欢欣鼓舞,【甘心情愿】。这可能就是刘先生的价值。【任何外国势力】就是指宗座,教宗;就是中国【地方】天主教会,不得与普世教会有联系,成为【独立的肢体】,变为让洋鬼子看的花瓶,和谐社会的奇葩。本质是让天主教教会成为一个虚有其名,而无其实的。。。【工具】,木偶。不如搞个什么爱党教,拜天教敬地教更为事半功倍。
至于【合泥派】的出发点,可能是担心中国教会教友的人性 的   软弱。比方,你的兄弟姐妹被绑架了,你该怎么谈判!?所以,不必埋怨,只可彼此探讨。
这个网站有些文章,跟帖,肆意攻击谩骂教会教友,大家不要生气,更不必删除,他不是来发表意见,彼此交流的,它是有来头的,不是简单的五毛,但是 天主的公义必然彰显。虽然教会软弱无能,是一个【十字架】的教会,但是日本鬼子,斯大林的刺刀必然解体,灭亡。天主教会必然会继续存在,传扬,除非【文明】完全被消灭。文明若是消灭,人类必也就消失了。最后审判也就来临。
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